Ouch that's gotta HURT!!! I guess Nascar is getting serious now...

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Ouch! Harsh penalty indeed. So it is not common practice for the cars to be confiscated then? I don't see how NASCAR can get away with that? That just seems crazy to me! Confisicate the part in violation, yes but the whole dang car! Unbelievable! Look, clearly this team hasn't benefited from any impropriety so this penalty just seems very severe. I am honestly shocked!

NASCAR is so worried about cheating, yet they aren't worried about drivers using their cars as weapons. It was Wednesday after all and I have heard nothing about any penalties against Hamlin, Kaslowski (oh, bad spelling there), and Earnhardt Jr. for their little stunts during the Nationwide Series race last Saturday. To me, what the three of them did was much more severe than a "rear wing mount infraction."
JMO

Kim

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They better hope they can lure Tony Stewart as soon as possible, cause their future looks bleak. I still believe that Dale Jr and Tony will end up buying it from Haas altogether, especially since the owners in jail and probably isnt doing it any justice with him in a cell! I believe that Jr and Stewart can bring sponsors and get better drivers for that team. I dont believe though that either will drive for it, i think they'll have two other drivers in those cars. I think Stewart will be put in the 5 car, and that Mears could be moved over to that team. I dont think Brad would be moved up to that team, especially that quick, but he is an option. I also heard a rumor that Stewart could land Bass Pro as a sponsor to go with him, and if they could get Martin Truex Jr, that would make Bass Pro even happier. My prediction is Martin Truex in one car with Bass Pro as a sponsor and the other with Mears as Navy as a sponsor. Another sponsor i think they could be capable of landing is Napa, i know they had alot of success with some ads featuring Jr when they were at DEI and im sure they were doing better in sales when they actually representing a driver with talent!

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Some interesting theories there, CJ. I don't know if Tony & Jr. would invest in a team in such disaray though. If they go into business together, I have a feeling they will start from the ground up. Jr. will more than likely bring over many of his employees from the Nationwide Series, possibly including Brad K. like you said. Mears....now that's one I hadn't thought of. That is very interesting. I like Mears. I would love to see Stewart end up at Hendrick but I don't want to see Mears displaced so it would be nice if Jr. & Stewart would hire him as a driver for their new team. I guess we will just have to wait and see since this is all hypothetical thus far. :-)

Kim

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CJ do you really think Tony & Junior would buy a team that was in so much trouble? Is"nt the owner in jail for Tax avasion?For owing Millions of dollars of money to the IRS.I think you are right about Martin Truex,but I am not convinced about Mears.I like Biffle but nut to sure if his temerment would fit Juniors.

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Bad spelling sorry....
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Cant agree here Kimi. Bumping someone in the back at 30 mph is hardly using a weapon. They do that bump drafting at 180 mph. Now with Denny pulling up and plowing into the left front of Brads front fender...a cheap shot at best. I feel He was pretty sure that (hit) would take Brad out of contention. JMO

Ron

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That's okay, Ron. :-) I didn't mean to just refer to the incident this past Saturday. There have been many others. Like when Denny stopped his car on the track on purpose. That was a dangerous situation for all the other drivers that had to avoid him. Yet no penalty. This particular penalty just seems severe.

And where are you? I know you are online but when I try to chat with you, it says you aren't. :-( I miss ya!

Kimi

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It's obvious that Nascar frowns on a team owner being in prison and has dealt a crippling and probably fatal blow to his operation. One must watch one's image you know. Tony and Jr may end up buying them out just to get a good price on equipment. If they do, you can bet they will bring in their own people to run the show. I think perhaps Truex and Biffle could end up as their drivers, unless Jr can sell Tony on Brad K. Works for me....

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Well, the reason i think they'd buy Haas is because they are pretty established, even though both cars are almost outside the top 35 in owner points. To buy Haas is a huge jumpstart then building a team from a ground up, with the shop and cars already established not to mention that wind tunnel that Haas built that is worth millions and is the only one in North America. Ive read from alot of fans that if Stewart was to replace Mears, many of them think Casey may end up at DEI, not to mention that Childress when talking about potential drivers for that 4th RCR car, he said he was keeping an eye on what happens with Casey at Hendrick. Brad is an option, but i gotta be honest, i think Jr is getting a lil fustrated with how Brad has been acting lately, like he's real arrogant and cocky, and Jr says he hasnt been around enough to act that way. I gotta tell you though, im not a Mears fan and id be just as happy if Mears went back to open wheel racing. I still also believe that Bobby is heading to RCR, he still hasnt signed a contract extension with Petty yet, and i think it's his last chance to contend for wins and championships.

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CJ:

Gotta agree with you on Bobby Labonte. Although I love the Petty family for all they've done for disadvantaged kids, their racing days and stronghold on the sport is over. Bobby is not being used to the best of his abilities. He is a talented driver and one of the best guys on the track from what I hear from those who have met him. I have also never heard another driver speak ill of him. It would be nice to see Bobby in a competitive car again and be more successful to showcase the talents he does have.

On a side note, don't know how many of you do this, but I donate to the Victory Junction Camp every year. I used to work with underprivaleged and disadvantaged children, those who were in the low 20th percentile for their ages. It is such a tremendous feeling of accomplishment to help a child in need and see their little faces light up when they feel they've achieved success. I worked with these children for three years and helped the majority of them bring Reading & Math grades up from D's and F's to B's and even A's in some cases. I still keep in touch with many of them, although they are making me feel old because they are all in middle school and high school now, and they still say "Thank you" to me whenever they see me. :-) It's an amazing feeling.

My whole point to this extremely long-winded story is to ask the rest of you, if you don't already, to donate to Victory Junction Camp, even if only $10.00. It's so worth it, trust me!

Kim

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Hey Geoffrey,

That reminds me....I've been meaning to ask you for some time if you would consider writing a story about the Petty's Victory Junction Camp for children. I don't think many people realize just how amazing the organization is, how it got started, why they keep it going, etc. It might interest people. I personally feel they don't receive enough press for all that they do. Since they are a non-profit organization, any free press they could get, I'm sure would be much appreciated. :-)

Kim

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I think you mean Tony Sr buckelew

Ron

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Forgot about Bobby maybe being available. Scratch Brad and make my drivers of choice for Tony & Jr's new venture to Truex and Labonte. Nice thought about Victory Junction Kim. These days you really have to be careful in giving to charities, but I have seen no bad reports on VJ. I too have a soft spot for the mentally handicapped, for that is the pool from which I obtained most of my wives. Who else would put up with me. Works for me....

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CJ I am right there with you on Mears

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CJ I agree with you on Mears & I agree Bobby would be a much better choice.I thought I heard about three weeks ago that Bobby signed with Petty Enterprise also. You are right I don't think Junior would put up with Brad if he started acting like Kyle Or Denny.Junior is not the one for nasty attitudes so that would leave Brad OUT.

Kim you are right Victory Junction is a great Charity
to donate to.The Petty's have put many a SMILE'S on these Childrens FACES.at least when you donate your money there you know what they do with it!!!

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I guess you haven't heard that on Wed. Tony Eury Jr. was fined $1,000 for the fracus that occured on saturday at the nationwide race. Isn't that eonderful that Denny H didn't get a penalty. what a jack ass.Poor baby got pushed during the caution. Brad K needs to watch himself, as Jr wont put up with his arrogance.

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Yes, that is 'eonderful' that Denny didn't get penalized for teaching that kid some manners. Somebody's gonna have to or he'll get into trouble with lots of the big boys on the playground.

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RaceDay said it was a disgruntled employee that spilled the beans. But the advantage was only 70/1000ths of 1". I don't think the penalty fit the crime.

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The punishment did not fit the crime! Nascar needs to punish each team/driver by the same rule book. I don't think Haas has good management in place with Haas in prison, but they also need to have more competitive drivers to do well...and the infractions having been used all year and approved by Nascar until now certainly haven't helped them much.

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